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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Jul 7, 2009 6:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

For religion I prefer Meher Baba, "Everything is nothing, nothing is everything."

As for politics, I refuse to ever play the victim. There has never been a president or political party that caused my life to either suffer or prosper under it's leadership. My world is what I make it.

Whether either party has a toehold on righteousness, I'll not be the judge, nor will I suffer fools that are motivated by false hatred. (That would be like trading half of America's hatred for George Bush with the other half's hatred of Al Gore.) Just when you think you're in the majority, there's the other half.

Finally, when the reaper comes, it appears to deal out death equally to all, and I know of no politician who has not sold their ideals along with their soul. I don't ever plan on selling out my ideology, or allowing it to be replaced with the kind of venomous hatred that appears to have your soul all in a knot.

Just a passing fancy, since you alluded, perhaps it might be an idea to have a personal plan for "the end game." I don't think government will bail us out when the man come round.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Jul 7, 2009 7:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

>>>For religion I prefer Meher Baba, "Everything is nothing, nothing is everything."
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Just a passing fancy, since you alluded, perhaps it might be an idea to have a personal plan for "the end game." I don't think government will bail us out when the man come round.>>>

F-16s won't do any good either, so there goes the GOP. The hate base seems to insist on reservations for Dante's Cornice of Wrath. Ouch.

Meher Baba (The God-Man, Messiah, Christ, Avatar) seems like a false profit, or at least a slippery slope. He seems to have said/signed near his end, "Do not forget that I am God." Hindu-Sufi syncretics can be tricky though.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jul 7, 2009 8:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

I agree, albeit reluctantly, that good ol' Meher Baba was another dead end...

How 'bout this caveat:
"Everyone's wrong about everything."

Anyway, we're in the 6th trump and heading fast for the 7th...
stick around any maybe you'll get to see the actual Anti-Christ and all that, if you believe... in all that.

I don't know anymore...

but the children believed...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 7, 2009 8:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

Once again, I missed X day. Gotta have more slack....

http://www.subgenius.com/

But at least I've found something to believe in:

http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2009-07-08 03:43:14

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jul 7, 2009 11:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

gawd, BD, that is funny!

thanks much for the links! lol

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Jul 7, 2009 9:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

What do you mean dead end? You don't give your soul to huckster like Meher, just benefit from the philosophy offered. The messenger is always there to be shot, or crucified, it's the message to keep your eyes fixed on. Everything else is just slight of hand.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jul 7, 2009 9:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

good point.

But one day back in '83 I tried showing up and hanging out at a hippie semi-political hangout wearing a Baba button, a smile and keepig my mouth closed, as though I had taken a temporary vow of silence...

and those boys (one still a close friend) didn't like my act at all...
and almost threw me bopdily out unless I dropped the act (they knew what I was trying to do) and start talking like a normal human being.

Look, only Meher Baba is/was Meher baba...
but we're all in the body of Christ, Amen.

Praise Allah.

(well, scratch that last comment!)

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Poster: spacedface Date: Jul 8, 2009 4:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

The messenger isn't always there to take abuse for scapegoaters, and the actual messengers aren't hucksters.

As for the other comment on praise, Allah is the Arabic word for God. In Hebrew the cognate is Elah; in Aramaic Alaha. In older German God is from ghut, "that which is invoked" -- similar to the Semitic, and apparently to the Aryan/Iranian Khuda.

Even Jews and Christians who speak Arabic use Allah, so the word itself should not cause problems for people unless they just have to take a tribal stand against Arabs and Semitic languages.

I haven't found a great extended treatment on the topic, but the best short ditty I've found (Wikipedia has several good pages too) is "One God, Many Names." The source may cause undue anxiety for some though:
http://www.zaytuna.org/seasonsjournal/seasons3/44-54%20One%20God%20Many%20Names.pdf

Well, let's get on with the show.

This post was modified by spacedface on 2009-07-08 11:28:29

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jul 8, 2009 5:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

Mason's Children?? And was that song really about the Floyd's Nick Mason??? ;-)

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jul 8, 2009 6:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

Come to think of it (I just got back from work), Mason's Children belongs on that "lost" debut list we were assembling!